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Gladys,

You disappoint me, is that all you've got?

I'd say that the best word available to describe you and your recent posts is IMPOTENT.

I accept that when it comes to being an authority on fools and stupidity then you are the guru King. You are indeed the messiah of simpletons all over the world.

Another old saying is "Do not approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear or an idiot from any direction".

School goes back next week so I guess you will be quiet now for a while.

gladys,

There is an old saying which directly relates to you as soon as you have run out of anything you feel is credible to say and that is:

"Talk sense to a fool and they will call you foolish."

I have absolutely smashed you in this debate by simply providing FACTS which continually negated your fanciful statements about Winx.

You say that I need therapy but unfortunately it is you that is the one who is actually in need of therapy.

I reiterate the point that I have smashed you in this Winx debate simply because I have presented the actual FACTS.

You on the other hand are completely delusional

eg. You watch the replay of Winx's record breaking 2015 Cox plate winning by 4.8 lengths against by your own admission probably "the best field she ever faced"

BUT

You do not see a great CHAMP beating a high class field in race record time by 4.8 lengths like 99.9% of the Australian and International racing pundits

NO

All you see is your delusional version with Criterion being almost launched over the running rail causing interference to almost the entire field which was made up of "a few handicappers and load of aged stayers from the same stable."

Gladys there can be NO denying that your version of the 2015 Cox Plate is NOT in fact delusional as it is a FACT that the STEWARDS did NOT see or report any of the NONSENSICAL  FANTASY VERSION of events that you attempted to describe and convince us of.     

These are FACTS Gladys, your version simply DID NOT HAPPEN, you are delusional and obviously you are the one in need of therapy.   

Further to this I would like you to read the following with a view to:

A) You coming to terms with admitting to yourself that you are in fact delusional

B) Hopefully recognize just how wise your King thus no longer continuing to ignore his wise counsel.

C) Realize that your King is only trying to help you.           

"When a person says something that reveals foolish thinking — the wise person will recognize the foolishness and avoid engagement in any meaningful way. But it’s not the FOOLISHNESS ITSELF that determines our response. It’s the ATTITUDE of the fool (gladys) holding the viewpoint. Remember, one of the characteristics of a fool (gladys) is that they ignore wise counsel when they hear it. They think they understand when they don’t. So our words and arguments and logic are lost on the fool (gladys). Wisdom is like a foreign language to the fool (gladys). He doesn’t grasp it. He just doesn’t get it. So trying to reason with a fool (gladys) is just…well…unreasonable. So we should abandon the hope that we’re going to get any traction with a fool (gladys). We aren’t. That’s what MAKES THEM a fool (gladys).

They don’t listen to wise counsel from the KING.

 

Look at all the capitals, highlighting and colours you need to convince yourself King.

I bet you dream about me and your next response every night.

It is called "obsession". When is your therapist due back, must be soon or have you put him into therapy.

Hi Gladys,

Eating crow is a colloquial idiom, used in some English-speaking countries, that means humiliation by admitting having been proven wrong after taking a strong position. The crow is a carrion-eater that is presumably repulsive to eat in the same way that being proven wrong might be emotionally hard to swallow.

Gladys I reckon that you will be feeling like you have a large CROW BONE stuck in your throat about now.

Enjoy the experience L05ER

Gladys,

You have a massive appetite for EATING CROW

You said:

"Unfortunately, Criterion was almost launched over the running rail which caused interference to almost the entire field."

WHAT A LOAD OF BS

I have watched this race over and over and it would appear that both myself and the STEWARDS did NOT see the fanciful interference that you describe as supposedly happening:

"Unfortunately, Criterion was almost launched over the running rail which caused interference to almost the entire field."

Sorry NOVICE no amount of insistence from you that the interference actually took place as you described will convince anybody including the STEWARDS that it actually happened that way.

Dream on D0PEY if it actually happened it would have been stated in the STEWARDS REPORT.

Here is the Stewards Summary @ Cox Plate Day Published 25 Oct 2015 read it and weep as you polish off your latest CARRION CROW CARCASS.

 

Race 9 - WILLIAM HILL COX PLATE (Group 1) - 2040 metres:

  • Pornichet (FR) - connections advised would be ridden quieter from the wide gate; settled in a position worse than mid-field.
  • Criterion (NZ) - slow into stride. Checked off the heels of Winx near the 1600m. Checked severely near the 450m to avoid the heels of Winx which had improved to the inside of The Cleaner which after initially having shifted out was then straightened by its rider. In assessing the incident the Stewards could not be fully satisfied that Hugh Bowman (Winx) had a careless riding charge to answer, given the contributing factors in that The Cleaner, when being straightened, left insufficient room for two runners to the inside resulting in Criterion running out of room.
  • Preferment (NZ) - got its head up near the winning post the first time, when being steadied off the heels of Criterion (NZ).
  • Arod (IRE) - raced keenly turning out of the straight and through the middle stages. Hampered at the 500m when taken out off its course by The Cleaner which shifted out abruptly. Rider Craig Williams reported his mount pulled up poorly and a subsequent veterinary examination failed to reveal any abnormalities.
  • Gailo Chop (FR) - raced keenly turning out of the straight and in the middle stages.
  • Hartnell (GB) - steadied at the 500m to avoid the heels of Highland Reel (IRE) which was taken out by Arod (IRE) which in turn was taken out by The Cleaner, which shifted out abruptly when struck with the whip.
  • Highland Reel (IRE) - hampered at the 500m when bumped by Arod (IRE) which had been taken out.
  • Complacent - raced three wide without cover. Rider James Doyle reported when placed under pressure it failed to respond and was most disappointing; a post race veterinary examination failed to reveal any abnormalities.
  • Kermadec (NZ) - a post race veterinary examination failed to reveal any abnormalities other than a slower than normal recovery.

 

Yes I agree that was the best field she ever faced after the retirement of First Seal and the others.

Unfortunately, Criterion was almost launched over the running rail which caused interference to almost the entire field.

Had that not happened we would not be subjected to your and Gary's continual blathering.

Gladys you said:

"Take her out of the Cox Plates she won and give us all an appraisal of the opposition.

"more than half the field that had never won a Group One.

Eat crow dopey!

In her 2015 race record Cox Plate win by 4.8 lengths all but three of her opposition had all won at least one Group 1 race.

The only THREE exceptions were:

1. The Cleaner who had been beaten only 0.2 in the 2015 G1 Underwood Stakes.

2. Gailo Chop who had run 2nd in a G1 at Longchamp  France beaten only 1.5 len. 

Soon after his run in the 2015 Cox Plate he won the G1 Mackinnon Stakes.

3. Arod who ran 2nd G1 Goodwood beaten 0.5 len Sussex Stakes (British Championship Series)

Further to this, this field was made up of many horses who had performed well at the highest level on the international stage in a number of cases multiple countries and or continents.

She blitzed a high class field by 4.8 len in record time.

As an afterthought Gary, I can recall Khap continually posting about the duds in Australian racing and repeatedly calling for the names of quality horses that Winx had beaten.

Strangely, he then had trouble posting. I imagine I am on borrowed time to as I continue to challenge the views of Team Gary.

Maybe only one critic at a time is allowed on this site.


 

Khap posted a while back Gary and gave me plenty of encouragement. It seems since the move to the new format he has trouble having his posts published.

He is not alone in that. It seems everyone has deserted the ship including your sycophantic fan club president L. Rex.

In any event, I don't need to have a mass following before I express an opinion. It would seem you get a bit uncomfortable if you haven't got the mob behind you.

You're on your own Gladys. Not even Khap and Fairburn have come to support you.

Pointless discussing this with you or Gary. Go on living in fantasy land together.

She got 2 kilos off no hoping aged stayers who were her stablemates. Older horses that raced against her had their opportunities to run in and win Group races but were too hopeless.

When she retired all these horses were then rounded up flogged by a couple of nine year olds with crook feet.

We have not had a decent weight for age horse besides her since So You Think. Speaking of which, what do you think he would have done to the camels she beat.

Good horse, best of her era, beat absolutely nuthin' but aged stablemates and other duds.

 

Gladys you are showing yourself up as a novice yet again with the following silly comments.

"Given that we have about 74 Group Ones"

How many of these 74 G1s are restricted to 2 & 3 year olds?

"more than half the field that had not won at weight for age and more than half the field that had never won a Group One."

Its pretty hard to win a G1 or WFA race when Winx was racing derrrrr!

I agree King. She did all those things. It was really easy too when you had no opposition, no pressure, just a few stablemates and a few assorted handicappers to beat.

Take her out of the Cox Plates she won and give us all an appraisal of the opposition. In at least two there was more than half the field that had not won at the distance, more than half the field that had not won at weight for age and more than half the field that had never won a Group One.

Given that we have about 74 Group Ones and that all but about half a dozen are Mickey Mouse races, quite easy to see how she did it.

Look at the list you provided. What do you think each of them would have done to the goats she beat.

Gladys the F00L

What did Winx beat?

She beat:

1. The record for the most number of Cox Plate wins. Even the great champion KINGSTON TOWN try as he might could not win four Cox Plates. (I for one never thought that I would see his record broken)

2. The course and race record for the Cox Plate multiple times.

3. The times that all of the following GREAT horses could only manage in winning their respective Cox Plates over the previous FORTY YEARS. (only a F00L would disregard this stat)

2014 Adelaide (IRE) 2011 Group 1 2040m
2013 Shamus Award (AUS) 2010 Group 1 2040m
2012 Ocean Park (NZ) 2008 Group 1 2040m
2011 Pinker Pinker (AUS) 2007 Group 1 2040m
2010 So You Think (NZ) 2006 Group 1 2040m
2009 So You Think (NZ) 2006 Group 1 2040m
2008 Maldivian (NZ) 2002 Group 1 2040m
2007 El Segundo (NZ) 2001 Group 1 2040m
2006 Fields Of Omagh (AUS) 1997 Group 1 2040m
2005 Makybe Diva (GB) 1999 Group 1 2040m
2004 Savabeel (AUS) 2001 Group 1 2040m
2003 Fields Of Omagh (AUS) 1997 Group 1 2040m
2002 Northerly (AUS) 1996 Group 1 2040m
2001 Northerly (AUS) 1996 Group 1 2040m
2000 Sunline (NZ) 1995 Group 1 2040m
1999 Sunline (NZ) 1995 Group 1 2040m
1998 Might And Power (NZ) 1993 Group 1 2040m
1997 Dane Ripper (AUS) 1993 Group 1 2040m
1996 Saintly (AUS) 1992 Group 1 2040m
1995 Octagonal (NZ) 1992 Group 1 2040m
1994 Solvit (NZ) 1988 Group 1 2040m
1993 The Phantom Chance (NZ) 1989 Group 1 2040m
1992 Super Impose (NZ) 1984 Group 1 2040m
1991 Surfers Paradise (NZ) 1987 Group 1 2040m
1990 Better Loosen Up (AUS) 1985 Group 1 2040m
1989 Almaarad (IRE) 1983 Group 1 2040m
1988 Our Poetic Prince (AUS) 1984 Group 1 2040m
1987 Rubiton (AUS) 1983 Group 1 2050m
1986 Bonecrusher (NZ) 1982 Group 1 2050m
1985 Rising Prince (AUS) 1980 Group 1 2050m
1984 Red Anchor (NZ) 1981 Group 1 2050m
1983 Strawberry Road (AUS) 1979 Group 1 2050m
1982 Kingston Town (AUS) 1976 Group 1 2050m
1981 Kingston Town (AUS) 1976 Group 1 2050m
1980 Kingston Town (AUS) 1976 Group 1 2050m
1979 Dulcify (NZ) 1975 Group 1 2000m
1978 So Called (NZ) 1974 Principal race 2040m
1977 Family Of Man (AUS) 1973 Principal race 2040m
1976 Surround (NZ) 1973 Principal race 2040m
1975 Fury's Order (NZ) 1970 Principal race 2040m
1974 Battle Heights (NZ) 1967 Principal race 2040m
   

4. Add to this some of the greats who although attempted to win a Cox could not manage to win one let alone four, there are no doubt many other examples but here are a few that come immediately to mind:

LONHRO,   VO ROGUE,   DEFIER,   FILANTE,   NATURALISM

 

That is really rich coming from you Gary., given the name calling coming from you against any one who questions your proclamations about the greatest horse ever born.

Nowhere did I say they were prematurely retired champions, that is just more of your lying to justify your adulation of the horse.

Read what I said and perhaps it will permeate your thick scone. No one, not even a self proclaimed Einstein like yourself, can predict how far those horses may have gone with their achievements. All one can do is look at what they did achieve, ie, towelling your dud beater,and then drawing a conclusion that if they remain sound, they could go on to anything.

Any horse out of the past who was any good would have flogged the non existent competition that she faced. The fact she won all those races was testament to the fact that there was no opposition except a few handicappers and load of aged stayers from the same stable.

Look at Manikato and the good horses he beat. Tell me anyone of those that raced predominantly against their own stablemates.

Good horse, best of her era, beat absolutely nuthin' but no hoping duds.

Gladys,

Re your:

"How long did it take you to write that emotional drivel, King?"

I type at approximately 50 words per minute.

Here's a challenge for you NOVICE, even a 6th class kid could answer you question but given your lack of understanding iof the relationship between speed and time, I very much doubt that you have the ability to answer your own question.

Perhaps you could get an @dult to help you with it, come on Gladys surprise us all and work out the answer & while your at it man up & also give us your answer to my previous question.

Is it A) or B)?

If you don't have anything to say, attack the writer. That's great form, Gladys.

You say that there were three prematurely retired champions (Fenway, First Seal and Gust of Wind), who had the wood on Winx (while she was still developing), yet you fail to mention, Slightly Sweet. Why is that?

Slightly Sweet met Winx twice and beat her both times. Why does she not get a mention?

 

How long did it take you to write that emotional drivel, King?

Did you have to take medication or counselling breaks during its composition?

I guess you will be spending the next few days in a darkened room with your Winx flag and cap talking to Gary on the phone for comfort.

Gladys the novice,

Re your:

"Have a look at last week's races at the Gold Coast. In a restricted race, Yamizaki covered the final furlong in 10.5 seconds. Using your inverted logic she would have beaten and been a better horse than Vain."

1. There is no such horse as Yamizaki. (in the Aus Studbook)

2. I assume that a novice such as yourself was actually talking about YamAzaki

3. She DID NOT run the final "furlong" in 10.5 seconds

4. In the race that she won at the Gold Coast to which you referred the final 600 m was run in 34.59.

5. At her next race start the final 600 m was also run in 34.59 however she ended up finishing seventh out of sixteen horses.

6. The point you seem to miss in all this Gladys the novice is that Winx had the ability to run fast times in all sections of her record time winning Cox plates not just in the final 600 m or 200 m portions of the race which you seem to want to dwell on.

7. If she "ONLY" ran a fast final 600 m or 200 m pure mathematics in relation to the time it takes you to get from point A (start) to Point B (finish line) would prove that to run a couple of Cox Plate race records she would also have to have been running fast sectionals in the other parts of the race otherwise mathematically it would have  been impossible for these race records to be achieved.

8. Sorry Gladys but if you have any hope of rising above novice class in your desire to communicate with other well educated racing people I suggest that you do a remedial maths course in the hope of gaining a basic understanding of speed and time. 

9. Your silly suggestion that Yamizaki??? could be better than Vain shows you up for the F00L that you are. It may well have run approximately 10.5 seconds for the final furlong??? in winning a race but the point you seem to miss is that none of this counts unless it can also sustain reasonably good or fast sectionals within the race as well (like WINX) if it has any hope of winning.

10. Many years ago I knew a bloke who had a filly that could burn the track up & produce amazing sectionals over the last 200 m but unfortunately it would give up like a pricked balloon at the 700 m mark even in a 900 m race at Newcastle. Yeah this filly had speed to burn but they could never find a race short enough for it. (never won a race or even placed)

11. NOVICE I hope you appreciate me taking the time to help to educate you, please oh please do not take my suggestion about booking yourself into a remedial maths course lightly.

12. Perhaps after your remedial maths course you may feel a little more confident in attempting to address an answer to my A) or B) question to you.

13. Yeah one can only hope, it is a very simple multiple choice question for a very simple girl but it would appear that as yet you have neither the confidence or the ability to give me an answer.

 

8. 

I bet Gladys isn't Gladys. That's a moral. He's throwin the bait out tho!

Yes Gary, they all beat her quite convincingly and who knows what they might have done if they kept on improving.

As to what they may have actually achieved who knows. Of course a big know it all like yourself would know but us mere mortals could only guess.

One thing I am sure of though is that if they had kept on racing in their previous form we wouldn't be talking about Winx and her records. They wouldn't exist.  Instead the wins were just racked up as she took on those no hoping stablemates and other duds season after season.

 

 

"I also conceded she was unbeatable in the races she competed in after First Seal and a couple of others gave it away."

Gladys, you are implying that these THREE horses were superior to Winx! This means we lost THREE potential world champions to injury or retirement in just a few short months?!. 

Effectively Winx rose to prominence only after these THREE left the racing scene?!

If just one of the THREE had continued racing, I presume it would have won five Cox Plates and recorded 40 consecutive wins?!

Jeez, how lucky was Winx to avoid that trio of champions?!

 

Gladys,

Re your:

"Have a look at last week's races at the Gold Coast. In a restricted race, Yamizaki covered the final furlong in 10.5 seconds. Using your inverted logic she would have beaten and been a better horse than Vain."

YOU ARE SUCH A NOVICE!

I am beginning to think that you are one of those d0pes that says things like:

If Black Caviar was so good then why didn't they put her in the Melbourne Cup.

According to your logic an Oakleigh Plate winner should be trained to win a Cox Plate

I would be extremely happy if I was one of the connections Piggy.

I also conceded she was unbeatable in the races she competed in after First Seal and a couple of others gave it away.

I also have always conceded she was the best of her era and a very good horse.

What I don't concede if that she ever competed against anything with talent except a three year old on the way up. Had Criterion not been almost put over the running rail the whole story would have been completely different.

Good horse, best of her era, beat nuthin'.

The last 260 odd horses that she raced. I don't think you would carry on with this cr*p if you had a piece of the action. Cheers, The Pig.

I try not to respond to your drivel King, as even though you are probably a nice chap away from the keyboard, you' re unfortunately a total dunce.

Like Gary, you are totally obsessed with using times to justify your obsession with your horse.

Have a look at last week's races at the Gold Coast. In a restricted race, Yamizaki covered the final furlong in 10.5 seconds. Using your inverted logic she would have beaten and been a better horse than Vain.

Now there's a good chap. Run along and watch the reruns of Winx beating up the guard of honour and have a joint howl with your new best friend.

 

Gladys you have obviously been snookered yet again again by your King's superior intellect.

Just answer the question oh gutleS5 one, it aint that hard!

Come on [email protected] what is your answer  A)  or  B)  ?

When does your therapist return from Christmas leave King?

Gladys,

The following is as far away as you could probably get from your "A leisurely stroll ending with a sprint"

"She first made Cox Plate history in 2015 setting a race record, but blitzed her own record with her third success in 2017. Winx also made the history books in 2016 setting the eight length winning margin record in the ‘Race Where Champions Are Made’."

Yes the great Winx could reel off some amazing sectionals in the final sprint home but even she could not set Cox plate race and course records simply by only providing a sprint at the end.

Pure mathematics will prove even to a novice like you Gladys that Cox Plate records can not be achieved with a combination of "A leisurely stroll ending with a sprint".

The point is that the preceding sections of the race record Cox Plate wins could NOT have been "A leisurely stroll" or the Cox Plate race records could NOT have been achieved unless of course the sprint home by Winx was that of some sort of SUPER HORSE producing a sprint at the end the like of which has never been seen before.

Come on Gladys its multiple choice give us an answer is it A) or B)?

A) The sections of the race record Cox Plates prior to the sprint at the end were NOT "A leisurely stroll"

OR

B) The sections of the race record Cox Plates prior to the sprint at the end were in fact run at "A leisurely stroll" and the only reason that Winx was able to run Cox Plate records was because she was in FACT some sort of SUPER HORSE producing a sprint at the end the like of which has never been seen before.

What is your answer gutle55 Gladys,is it  A) or B) ?

Failure to give us a simple answer of either A) or B) will be an admission on your part that you are in fact a mealy mouthed novice who knows very little about racing.

PS

Gary Gladys is in denial about a number of things but here are a few of the obvious ones

1. She is in denial about wishing that she could have a friend like Gary!

2. She is in denial that Winx was a CHAMPION.

 

"A leisurely stroll ending with a sprint"..sounds a bit like taking on stablemates that are aged one paced stayers and a few random handicappers doesn't it.

Now, where have I seen that happening?

Am I dreaming, or has the "Add Reply" option been removed?

King, apart from Winx's World ranking, about what is Gladys in denial?  

 

 

Gladys,

"Winx went on to become arguably the greatest Cox Plate winner of all time when her 2018 success saw her become history’s only four-time champion. She first made Cox Plate history in 2015 setting a race record, but blitzed her own record with her third success in 2017. Winx also made the history books in 2016 setting the eight length winning margin record in the ‘Race Where Champions Are Made’."

ONE OF YOUR NOMINATED GREAT HORSES OF THE PAST IN VO ROGUE COULD NOT WIN EVEN ONE COX PLATE LET ALONE RUN A COURSE OR RACE RECORD IN THIS EVENT

PS

Re the Christmas night the 26th

I have been waiting to say this, "GLadys you are obviously IN DENIAL".

"I saw Might and Power break 32 for 600m in a track gallop with one horse in between races at Rosehill one day Gary"

A track gallop is a leisurely stroll ending with a sprint. It is not a race. What's your point?

 

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I have asked (begged) R&S to disable or conceal the "add reply" button.

She ran the last 400 in 22.02 seconds.

I saw Might and Power break 32 for 600m in a track gallop with one horse in between races at Rosehill one day Gary.

If there is no pressure on during a race most reasonable horses can reel off a good finishing time. How many reeled off good times when they were chasing Vo Rogue or Manikato. No one. Super Impose had no sprint left when he chased Vo Rogue.

What is your point Gary. Good horse, best in era, beat nuthin'

Let it rest.

Gary, when you stop sobbing about her retirement go on to U Tube and have a look at horses like All Silent in the Patinack, Chautauqua in the TJ Smith and Super Impose in his Doncaster/Epsoms win, with top weight I might add.

Just watch the starts they gave away against good horses and they rounded them up. Look at the old handicap races at the trots. Off a standing start they would give away up to 100 metres over a mile and round them up,

She ran down a bunch of no hopers that were not group horses. With due respect, her opposition were third raters and you know it.

Trying to ridicule me or banging on about how she won means nothing. She just beat duds.

 

If they were racing against the opposition they usually faced, with the exception of Manikato, they would struggle

If they would racing against the no hopers she beat they would do it on their ear.

If I understand you correctly, you're saying that "Might and Power, Sunline, So You Think, Vo rogue or Manikato" could have given the leaders in a 1300 metre race, a 7 length start with just 200 metres to run and handed out a thrashing.

Gary,  you have to be kidding. Any half decent horse of yesteryear would have flogged the pathetic competition that Winx faced.

She was a very good horse who was blessed to run in an era of total duds. She beat aged handicappers, second rate plodders and stable mates forming a guard of honour. She had the benefit of being shrewdly placed and kept sound. Regular doses of Regumate did the rest. Tell me, why is Regumage banned overseas. What happened to BC when she was forced to race without it overseas. She fell in at Ascot against a horse that had never won over the distsnce and all we got was that tripe about her being injured. If she was injured she would not have run or been allowed to run.

Back to Winx, she was the best of her era but beat nuthin'

All that tripe about race callers falling to their knees. In every sport you have a broadcaster shouting hysterically about the most minor things. I know you love it because it suits your mindset. I am sure you were sobbing away when the media interviewed the jockey's wife and child and would have been in convulsions when the they turned up in the open car at last year's Cox Plate.

Instead of asking me stupid questions just answer this one. Name one of the greats of yesteryear who would have been beaten by any of the no hopers that Winx beat. What do you think Might and Power,Sunline, So You Think, Vo rogue or Manikato would have done to that list of duds you provided.

 

Gladys, you said - "You forgot to include Sons of John, L'Esquetie Spirit. Red Excitement and Foxwedge."

Regarding Sons of John's race - Winx was first up at 1300 metres-

At the 400m - Winx (ridden by Jmac) was last, had to check off heels and was going nowhere.

At the 300m - Still last. JMac pulls out to make a run.

At the 200m - Making ground, but still seven lengths behind.

At the 120m - The racecaller calls Winx as being 5 lengths behind.

The racecaller takes his eyes off her and doesnt see her again until two strides from home.

She wins and the racecaller drops to his knees.

Everybody except you witnessed a champion.

Australia has been blessed with a number of great horses over the past few decades. Please provide a list of those that could have done what Winx did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuiYGHVQqTU


 

You forgot to include Sons of John, L'Esquetie Spirit. Red Excitement and Foxwedge.

How depressing is it to read through that list. Hartnell and Benbatl were third raters brought over here because they could not win in Europe and Highland Reel went on to better things.

The rest, with the exception of Happy Clapper and Chautauqua, are total no hopers and pin up horses for bookmakers.

 

I wouldn't call Chautauqua a "no hoper". 

He was a sprinter. He faced Winx at 1500m in the G1 George Ryder Stakes. 1500m was not his go despite him finishing 3rd to Winx (by 8.6 lengths) in that George Ryder Stakes in 2017.

This list was provided a year ago.

Daylight
Happy Clapper
Egg Tart
Benbatl
Humidor
Youngstar
Daylight
Kings Will Dream
Le Romain
Gailo Chop
Kementari
Hartnell
Daylight
Chautauqua
Black Hart Bart
Hauraki
Rebel Dane
Daylight
Azkadellia
Kermadec
Press Statement
Solicit
Highland Reel

Daylight

and...Vadamoss
 

This has really gripped everyone's imagination, hasn't it.

Why don't you name the ten best horses that Winx beat.  That will completely do your head in.

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